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Unprecedented diplomatic crisis: Paris recalls its ambassadors to Washington and Canberra
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The diplomatic crisis between France and two of its "allies", the United States and Australia, is taking on a new dimension. Trampled on and humiliated after the cancellation by Canberra of the contract for the supply of French submarines in favor of a strategic partnership with Washington and London (AUKUS), Paris does not release the pressure vis-à-vis Canberra and Washington by recalling immediately its ambassadors to the United States and Australia for consultations, explained Friday evening the Minister of Foreign Affairs Jean-Yves Le Drian in a press release. An unprecedented decision by France vis-à-vis two historical "allies".
The abandonment of the ocean-going class submarine project, which had linked Australia to France since 2016, and the announcement of a new partnership with the United States aimed at launching studies on a possible future cooperation on nuclear-powered submarines, "constitute unacceptable behavior between allies and partners, the consequences of which affect the very conception that we have of our alliances, our partnerships and the importance of the Indo-Pacific for the 'Europe", underlined the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Paris no longer has confidence in Canberra
France does not see how it can trust Canberra in the trade negotiation between the EU and Australia after their decision to break their commitment to to buy French submarines, said the Secretary of State for European Affairs, Clément Beaune, on Friday. The European Commission has been responsible since 2018 for negotiating free trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand.
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Comments58 Yakari wrote on 09/20/2021 at 7:45 AMReportJust one question...AUKUS is made up of Australia, Great Britain, and the USA. They are together to blow up this contract. Why did France only recall 2 out of 3 ambassadors? Why didn't the British Ambassador... Just one question...AUKUS is made up of Australia, Great Britain, and the USA. They are together to blow up this contract. Why did France only recall 2 out of 3 ambassadors? Why hasn't the British ambassador been recalled? Why haven't journalists from all the media (TV, radio, written press) asked this question? In this affair, the journalists content themselves with relaying the press releases of the ministries. Where is the investigative work? Where are the "itchy hair" questions? Why so much journalistic complacency towards politicians? In this case, journalistic work is extremely weak, if not totally nil.
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Ludeau wrote on 09/19/2021 at 1:39 p.m. Report It is unpleasant to learn geopolitical lessons from the Australian submarine affair. They are final: Brexit has remade the UK into a world power, stuck in the EU, which does not even support it on this hard blow, and sees the Fra... It is unpleasant to draw the geopolitical lessons from the affair of the pennies -Australian sailors. They are final: Brexit remakes the UK a world power, stuck in the EU which does not even support it in this hard blow, and sees France go from disaster to disaster... FREXIT and FAST! F Asselineau.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Gédéonà wrote on 09/19/2021 at 13:30 Report "After having recently known a US ally who looted our companies (Alsthom), imprisoned some of their leaders (Frédéric Pierucci) without the slightest reason, imposed his extraterritorial legislation on transactions in dollars, sancti... "After having recently come across a US ally who is looting our companies (Alsthom), imprisoning some of their leaders without the slightest reason (Frédéric Pierucci), imposing its extraterritorial legislation on transactions in dollars, sanctions allied companies that do not scrupulously respect the anti-Russian, anti-North Stream 2, anti-Iran sanctions (sanctions imposed unilaterally by the US executive and legislative branch), leaves Afghanistan without consulting its partners, that's that the USA also begin to plunder the markets of the weakened and declining French ally… France has therefore become the “doormat” of the United States by dint of submission, servility, letting things go. She is cuckolded but happy because she believes she can still count in a Europe where she is now more isolated than ever. Beyond the weak protests, uttered half-heartedly and which everyone knows will have no future, France is being smoked out, rolled in flour, violated, without reacting. The more she lowers her head, lifts her skirt and lets it go, the more the United States, which despises the weak, will continue to exploit her for their benefit while also continuing to train her in dubious military operations for the benefit of questionable interests... The announcement of an exit from NATO's integrated military organization and the return to a Gaullist view of things, with a balance between East and West".. International Network, Gal de Diamantidis.. < hr>To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Patà wrote on 09/19/2021 at 12:00 ReportA simple answer would be to develop commodity markets listed in Europe and in euros. Because otherwise the suppliers will always buy in US dollars, and therefore will negotiate contracts in dollars, with applicable American law, and in... A simple answer would be to develop commodity markets quoted in Europe and in euros. Because otherwise the suppliers will always buy in US dollars, and therefore will negotiate contracts in dollars, with applicable US law, and ultimately supremacy. Germany via Eurex is trying to do it a little, but it's timid. France remains beside the plate it seems, while it could list precious metals given its physical reserves already in place. No political will, or worse vision. The Chinese have understood this well and are already developing these financial markets for themselves. Europe lagging behind as usual.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Ordinary citizen wrote on 09/19/2021 at 9:56 a.m. ReportWho says breach of contract says "damages and interests" well it's the business world in short, Australia must pay money to France to compensate for the losses following the cancellation of this large order.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from @ Ordinary citizen on 09/19/2021 at 10:17 a.m. Report And what do we do with the personnel that Naval group has hired and the start of submarine construction?Response from Ordinary citizen on 09/19/2021 at 14:28ReportCurrently everything is being recycled, no losses.Australia is not the only country in the world that needs submarines, is it?A customer of lost 10 of found, should not be pessimistic.
max wrote on 09/19/2021 at 8:22 AMReportThanks to the US. They prevent France from participating in a war with China. You have to see the bright side of things.
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MOUGEON wrote on 09/19/2021 at 7:57 a.m.ReportWhat a stupid idea to recall the ambassadors: the cost of round trips (because obviously the recall is only temporary), paid by the taxpayer, and the carbon impact for the planet! A 30-minute teleconference would allow... What a stupid idea to call back the ambassadors: the cost of round trips (because obviously the callback is only temporary), paid for by the taxpayer and the carbon impact for the planet! A 30-minute teleconference would make it possible to achieve the same result (i.e. not much) for much less.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your address email below:
Response from @ Mougeon on 09/19/2021 at 10:18 a.m.SignalerCa I agree it would be better to prohibit the sale and purchase of products in these 3 countries (we forget America and the UK each time.matins calms wrote on 09/19/2021 at 6:34 Report These people are under glass They are not responsible for anything Never This old crouton and his sidekick the sinister parly of the armies has no place for a role of sales negotiator d'armes stratégiques. Jors sol.
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Paulà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 22:38ReportFollowing this, is it possible that France or Europe will convert their reserves of US dollars into precious metals?To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from rush on 09/18/2021 at 11:18 p.m.ReportTête à slaps took a torpedo from his friend Biden! he really sucks.Reply from calamard on 09/19/2021 at 4:40 a.m. ReportThe best answer to Uncle Sam would be for Europe to negotiate all its contracts with foreign countries in euros and not in dollars, it is the fear of Americans and that is why they are doing everything to sow discord between European countries.
Artà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 21:43 ReportThe problem with France is that it takes itself for what it is not. Media, politicians and "specialists" from all sides seem not to know that France and the United States do not box in the same category. Weird !
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Response from Calamard on 09/19/2021 at 3:13 p.m. Report France is the 3rd arms exporter in the world, this corresponds well to a know-how. We must support our arms industry and not denigrate it without arguments.PIC SOUSà written on 09/18/2021 at 17:36ReportAUKUS POCUS, the billions are gone, the billions gone, well we're going home...
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Nexus wrote on 09/18/2021 at 05:31 PMReportWe have already removed the petit fours and champagne from the ambassador's reception, now we are flying them to Paris. Apart from the cost of all this, I hope the USA sees the French wrath!To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Calamard's response on 09/18/2021 at 6:12 p.m. Report Absolutely, it's a role play, at the next G7, we will see Mr Macron pat Biden on the back over a drink.Mouaisà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 15:43 ReportThe only industry that we will soon have left on our territory is related to armaments... me, that saddens me. In addition, we will never have the means of certain mastodon nor their influence, even by doing our circus as currently. .me it saddens me. In addition, we will never have the means of certain behemoths or their influence, even by doing our circus as we are now. Can't we have contracts of the centuries in civilian sectors? Australia is the Commonwealth... so by definition with an Anglo-Saxon preference. Against China in this corner of the world, it is logical to prefer US support to French support. Finally, we have been hearing for months that Australia is unhappy with this contract. In short, it's just like all that. I would like us to take care of the real problems and to refocus on industries where we have no chance of winning.
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Tin tinà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 2:06:06 ReportIn this context what will be the result of the new referendum for the separation of New Caledonia rich in Nickel, very important for the batteries of electric cars? Who pays the separatists there?To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Photo73 wrote on 09/18/2021 at 1:44 p.m. Report Of the sums displayed, only a part came back to France but the armament, etc., it was foreign, certain US companies will also be concerned, market stopped. Note that our ambassador to the UK was not claimed, a way of saying that... Of the sums displayed, only part went to France but the weapons, etc., were foreign, certain US companies will also be concerned, market stopped. Note that our ambassador in the UK has not been claimed, a way of saying that they are the third wheel of the carriage, have joined the agreement (committing when the time comes, will have to go to war with the USA) without any off-display profit. The UK has therefore chosen its side ('natural), the EU/GB defense collaboration maintained after Brexit, it may be over.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
causs32a wrote on 09/18/2021 at 12:57 a.m. ReportWe said senile TRUMP!!!!!!To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Ah bonà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 11:12 amReportA simple retaliation measure, which can pay off, and easy to put in place, would have been to sell all USD reserves and buy precious metals instead. History shows that it's a good long-term investment anyway. Ma... A simple retaliation measure, which can pay off, and easy to implement, would have been to sell all USD reserves and buy precious metals instead. History shows that it's a good long-term investment anyway. But unlikely to happen.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from Adieu BCE on 09/18/2021 at 12:52 ReportStart to strengthen the cryptocurrency ecosystem and invest in BTC and ETH instead of the dollar and when we have it bcp contribute to building public and private services on blockchains we will have accumulated. We could thus enrich France... Start to strengthen the cryptocurrency ecosystem and invest in BTC and ETH instead of the dollar and when we have a lot of it, contribute to building public and private services on the blockchains that we will have accumulated. We could thus enrich France and weaken sovereign currencies like the dollar.Response from Adieu BCE on 09/18/2021 at 14:39 ReportFrance as a weak sovereign state and therefore without real sovereignty has an interest in developing cryptocurrencies as an alternative to the dollar and in doing so it could earn enormous sums .
Thorà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 11:01 am ReportWe are waiting for retaliatory measures from France, deprive of camembert? calendars? ah ah! You have to find out a little about China's military strategy of containment via the environment that surrounds it, namely water, water, the environment... We are waiting for retaliatory measures from France, deprive of Camembert? calendars? ah ah! You have to get a minimum of information, China's military strategy of containment via the environment that surrounds it, namely water, water, the maritime environment is called Air sea warfare, the equivalent of the air land battle strategy of the Cold War against the Soviets. The US knowingly provides the fruit of their strategic analyzes online, in order to remain predictable for the adversary and thus avoid misunderstandings. permanent surveillance, I mean permanent which covers the whole of the Chinese coastal zone (it's just enormous and it will increase, they only use old equipment equipped with new sensors for the moment), they call "Deterrence by detection", monitoring to prevent in some way... to prevent Chinese military adventures, at random against Taiwan, which provides a lot of Western electronic military equipment. Chinese coasts and ports, they track all suspicious movements with AI to detect "patterns", they undoubtedly see submarines leaving their ports for example... and this despite the Chinese tunnels. In this context, I remind you that the "French" submarines "sold" to Australia were fully equipped with US systems (Lockheed Martin, Skunk works) regarding their ability to engage targets. This means integration with a surveillance, tracking network ( tracking) which are the remote eyes of the submarines so that they do not wander randomly in the immensity of the Indian Ocean... Aussie (laughs), it is very likely that they saw with a bad eye (sic) to be watched so closely by the frogs given our legendary reliability... while they install and implement their latest network/analysis and military communications equipment... I remind you that the ambiguity alliances is the trademark of France with reversals that border on treachery... c.f. Iraq, our ally at the time, just before 1991... and the former Yugoslavia... The project highlights before nuclear propulsion (to hide something else), which it is true will allow Camberra to be sent to the front much more quickly and with the precision of this integration into a multi-domain surveillance network (marine, submarine, space, UAV, stealth UAV etc.). Because that's the great novelty, making Australia a piloted ally, integrated into a complex network (the heart of technological confidentiality) based on AI and multiple submarine and avian drones some imitating the biological world...(c.f. the artificial Chinese and US manta rays which will be constantly patrolling). Australians will only have the final A of the OODA loop left...
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Bahà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 10:40 am ReportA diplomatic crisis to amuse the gallery..., we don't forget that we are in an election period and that everything is geared towards this goal, at least for the mainstream media!To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
revoa wrote on 09/18/2021 at 10:40 Report these billions of euros, would they already be incorporated into the export figures finally to flourish the rise of the economy, and hence the frustration and dismay of the government?To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
BA wrote on 09/18/2021 at 10:35 AMReportIn the region, regardless of the missed contract, there is another infinitely more important problem that will come to us quickly. This 3 rd referendum in New Caledonia which risks making us lose this strategic department. One wonders... In the region, independently of the missed contract, there is another infinitely more important problem which is going to happen to us quickly. This 3 rd referendum in New Caledonia which risks making us lose this strategic department. One wonders if our politicians do not want to stunt France. Who votes, the Treaty of Noumea? Chirac / Jospin froze the electorate on the date of the treaty (1976) which means that since that date, newcomers no longer vote (is this constitutional?) in short, the voters no longer correspond to the population. In case of separation, we will lose Nickel and our area of influence in the Pacific. Much more serious than submarines. How to claim to be a great nation under these conditions.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from Finland on 09/18/2021 at 12:12 Report France is a small nation. It's time to come back to earth (for the French) instead of farting higher than its c.l. . And therefore to let its overseas territories and departments sail on their own. It will at least make ... France is a small nation. It's time to come back to earth (for the French) instead of farting higher than its c.l. . And therefore to let its overseas territories and departments sail on their own. It will at least save money. If the category of European frugal people is fuming and doing better than us, it's also because they don't have this delirium of grandiosity...Response from Adieu BCE on 18/ 09/2021 at 15:43 ReportWe are no longer a great nation. We must leave independence to these lands and abandon our ridiculous politics of power which absorbs our energies. We must focus on science, technology and education to develop new...We are no longer a great nation. We must leave independence to these lands and abandon our ridiculous politics of power which absorbs our energies. We must focus on science, technology and education to develop new know-how, which will make France a respected country in 20-30 years more than today.
Brehatà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 10:31 a.m.SignalerLike the 1st step, I find it good, but the pressure must be increased to be respected: 1/ immediate withdrawal from NATO 2/ veto of the free trade agreement between a and Australia in the process of negotiation 3/ invoicing of all the open of... Like 1st stage I find that good but it is necessary to increase the pressure to be respected: 1/ immediate exit of NATO 2/ veto with the free agreement exchange between one and Australia under negotiation 3/ invoicing of all the open requested from France (NATO Europe etc..) ras the wood that taxes are also used to pay instead of the Netherlands or Germany ..4 / sale of the French maritime empire and its confetti to the highest bidder 5 / invitation from China to Martinique or New Caledonia for drs contracts.. maybe a naval base?
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Albertà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 10:22ReportDear Monsieur le Drian the geostrategic context has changed and we would have a great interest in not adding to it because instead of negotiating we are going to lose everything and permanently, it is true that France is only a shadow of itself. Note that... Dear Mr. Le Drian, the geostrategic context has changed and it would be in our best interest not to add to it because instead of negotiating we are going to lose everything and permanently, it is true that France is no longer shadow of itself. Let us note the processions of corruption associated with the sale of military equipment. What are we doing to ensure our sovereignty in a peaceful zone over a vast territory like Europe, fishing boats plunder the resource and sometimes crash on the flat ..To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from Brehat on 09/18/2021 at 10:35 a.m.SignalerIs this why if we have to let ourselves be done.. are you a soft c... If it were the opposite there would already be retaliatory measures against French people in Australia and in the usa….and a contract is a contract…Citizen blaséà written on 09/18/2021 at 9:34 ReportIt is grotesque because it ignores the global geostrategic context but perhaps a more general strategy in these times of heightened global tension.
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Response from Brhat on 09/18/2021 at 10:36: ReportTo us, do you think we have to let it go, you are incoherent because we usually castigate you at all costs on the government for inaction...Response from Brhat on 09/18/ 2021 at 10:37ReportA good thing, do you think we should let ourselves be done, you are incoherent because we usually castigate you at all costs on the government for inaction...
Reply from Citoyen blasé on 09/18/2021 at 16:10ReportFrom our lack of sovereignty and therefore of diplomatic power there are many more important issues to fight for, such as the recovery of our maritime domain, the fact that geostrategic issues are self-evident... Due to our lack of sovereignty and therefore of diplomatic power there are many more important issues to fight for such as the resumption of control of our maritime domain the fact that the geostrategic issues have moved to asia pacific has obviously still not challenged France and of course even less the EU.
Valbel89 wrote on 09/18/2021 at 8:48 a.m. ReportIn Indo Pacific there is India. India buying "Rafale"...
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Response from megadebt on 09/18/2021 at 03:47 PMReportError, India is buying technology transfer like China...Louisa wrote on 09/18/2021 at 08:37 AM ReportDeeds! France must veto trade negotiations with Australia. And get out of NATO.
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Reply from Brehat on 09/18/2021 at 10:39 ReportYes!!!Reply from Brehat on 09/18/2021 at 10:40 a.m. ReportOui !!!
chengà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 8:32 ReportIt's good not to have also called back the ambassador in the UK, on the one hand it's really a negligible amount, and then it should not be added , the poor they are already worried about their shortage of mac do and coke!
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fma44a wrote on 09/18/2021 at 8:23 am ReportLet's do wine, cooking and tourism, it will be more useful than persisting in areas that are beyond us.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Response from Fg on 9/18/2021 at 9:20 a.m. ReportExactly. ....a few tens of billions of euros are of little importance. We are also very strong in the global support of populations (country of human rights obliges)Reply from Brehat on 19 /09/2021 at 9:21 ReportBecause you think it will be enough to keep the country alive? You have deficiencies in economic knowledge … very French traces moreover. Such a contract makes it possible to energize an entire eco-system which produces which hires etc… well, therefore, creates…Because you believe that it will be enough to sustain the country? You have deficiencies in economic knowledge … very French traces moreover. Such a contract makes it possible to energize an entire eco-system which produces which hires etc… eh therefore creates wealth beyond the contract….
Response from Brehat on 09/19/2021 at 9:22 ReportBecause you think that will be enough to keep the country alive? You have deficiencies in economic knowledge … through good French moreover. Such a contract makes it possible to energize an entire eco-system which produces which hires etc... so create...Because you believe that it will be enough to make the country live? You have deficiencies in economic knowledge … through good French moreover. Such a contract makes it possible to energize an entire eco-system which produces which hires etc… eh therefore creates wealth beyond the contract….
chengà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 8:23 am ReportAfter CETA, we incidentally learn that the EU is working on a trade agreement with Australia!
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the rabbit wrote on 09/18/2021 at 7:44 a.m. ReportJuju who starts to sulk it's not beautiful, but it's still touching cute.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
aukusà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 7:30 am ReportThe immediate resumption of surface nuclear testing in the Pacific must be announced!To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Reply from megadebt on 09/18/2021 at 15:44ReportYou are right like that the Polynesians will take their independence given the French health carnage in the Pacific region...PAFOwrote on 09/18/2021 at 6:48Report played the same game in the 20th century, and continue to do so. How can we be surprised at what is happening today? Their strategy is to play the protagonists of a conflict against each other, then to win the m... The United States played the same game in the 20th century, and continue on their way. How can we be surprised at what is happening today? Their strategy is to play the protagonists of a conflict against each other, then to win the bet once they have killed each other. They feed on corpses like scavengers: maximum profit for a minimum bet. They are doing the same thing in the Middle East: creating a bump that will inevitably lead to war, and preparing to return at the end of the conflict as they did in the 20th century in Europe. Such blindness by France is either linked to internal complicity, or a cognitive deficit in our state, or a bit of both...
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Calamardà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 4:52 Report A diplomatic wind, when at the same time we are forced to subcontract with the Americans for our "wars" in the Sahel and the Middle East. The real response would be to disengage from the Sahel and the Middle East and leave the management of terrorism to... A diplomatic wind, when at the same time we are forced to subcontract with the Americans for our "wars" in the Sahel and the Middle East. The real response would be to disengage from the Sahel and the Middle East and leave the management of terrorism to the Americans since no European country is helping us.To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
megadebtà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 2:11 am ReportIt's a declaration of love from Paris to Beijing...Long live dangerous liaisons!To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
Malafuà wrote on 09/18/2021 at 2:06 a.m.ReportReversement d'alliance?To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
matins calmes wrote on 09/18/2021 at 1:52 a.m. Report But who do they think they are?To be alerted by email of a reaction to this comment, please enter your email address below:
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